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until you know the details
Well… no. T he Saturn I first stage was NOT made from one Jupiter and eight Redstones- that's a popularly held misconception.
This myth comes up often on spaceflight social media and implies that the folks at ABMA (the Army
Ballistic Missile Agency, which first developed the Saturn vehicles) went into the hangar, nabbed 8 Redstone boosters and one Jupiter booster and
just strapped them together to make the Saturn I. This is nonsense- so I’ll
kill the myth quick and then explain.
First off we’re
talking about “tanks” which in the IRBMs actually made up about 2/3 of the
vehicle’s length. The overall length consisted of the tanks plus the engine
compartment, plus an instrument section, plus a nosecone and or war head. Since
the Saturn I didn’t have a war head and it’s instrument section was carried
above the tanks which were stacked atop the engine compartment- our discussion
is one of simply the tank sections.
This is the view up the Thrust Unit of a Jupiter.
It's a long way from the bottom of the hull
to the base of the tank.
The tank sections
used on the Saturn I, Block I (SA-1, 2, 3 and 4) were 56.4 feet in length (some
NASA documents also show them at 51.4). If you measure inside, or dome to dome
the LOX tank was 50.62 feet and the fuel tanks were 49.04 feet in length.
The Redstone
itself, in the IRBM configuration, which would have been used in the era in
question had a tank section that was only 37.5 feet long. The Jupiter IRBM had
a tank section was just 29.7 feet long- almost half as long as the Saturn I
core tank.
End of
debate.
The S-I
stage’s tanks were not stock Redstones or Jupiters.
Of course
ABMA (which on July 1, 1960, was taken over by NASA as the Marshall
Space Flight Center, or MSFC) and NASA itself added to the confusion by repeatedly
stating that the S-I stage was made up of “eight Redstone tanks and one Jupiter
tank.” This over-simplification was intended to promote understanding, yet is highly misleading and thus led
to this popular myth. It was also a public relations tool to add a note of
confidence to the booster. This was because of the outstanding reliability and
launch record of both the Redstone and the Jupiter. After all, if it was made
up of these trusted machines, the S-I must also be just as reliable… right?
This was started at a time when critics at the Cape were referring to the
Saturn’s clustered engine concept as “cluster’s last stand” so NASA and MSFC
needed every shred of good publicity about the project that they could get. Oddly, NASA's public affairs office continued to say that the S-IB stage was made from Redstone and Jupiter rockets right into the Skylab program. By that time, most people in the public did not even know what a Jupiter IRBM was and the Redstone had been a museum piece for more than a decade.
How the
Saturn I actually got constructed was that the ABMA people used the same
construction jigs, tooling, methods and man-power used to make the Redstone and
Jupiter tanks to build the longer Saturn I tanks. These tanks had the same
diameter and wall thickness as those of the IRBMs, but had NOTHING else in common.
By using the
same construction jigs, tooling, methods and talent as had been used on the
IRBMs, the ABMA benefitted in the form of time-saving and quality control. The bulkheads and
tank domes used in the IRBMs were never in the Saturn I tanks, nor were any
other fitting as each tank was custom-made specifically for the Saturn. The main bodies of the tanks were constructed by rolling plates of aluminum into "C" frames each of which was ~5.12 feet long. Those were spot-welded together two at a time to make a ring. Those rings, with stringers added were stacked to form the cylinder that would be most of the tank. The tank domes were formed in a process called hydro-spinning.
The
only thing that the Saturn tanks had in common with the IRBMs was their
diameter. The core LOX tank for all Saturn I and IB boosters were 105 inches in
diameter and all eight tanks surrounding it were 70 inches in diameter. That
size never differed and did actually match the diameters of the Redstone and
Jupiter IRBMs.
On the
Saturn I, Block II the tanks were lengthened to 62.47 feet for the outer eight
tanks and 65.8 feet for the core tank. This led to the stage being able to
carry ~100,000 pounds more propellants and thus make a longer burn time.
So ends the myth.
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Sorry, but it is not a "myth."
ReplyDeleteWhile it is true that the actual flight versions of the S-I first stage were not constructed from Redstone and Jupiter tanks, in fact the tankage design of the S-I was based entirely on one Jupiter tank in the center surrounded by eight Redstone tanks and, moreover, that the original "proof-of-concept" version (for ground testing only) actually used discarded Jupiter and Redstone tanks.
This, from STAGES TO SATURN, p. 29-30:
"Because ARPA Order Number 14-59 called only for a static demonstration in the test stand, not a flight-configured launch vehicle, the booster that began to take shape on the Redstone Arsenal drawing boards and in the shops was definitely a bargain-basement and patch-work affair. The volume of the tankage [of the Saturn] posed a special problem. The fabrication and welding of a single 6-meter-diameter tank, with separate compartments for fuel and oxidizer, meant new techniques and working jigs. Consumption of time and money threatened to become exorbitant. A different approach to the problem evolved, and existing tanks were used instead. From its own earlier production runs, ABMA [Army Ballistic Missile Agency] located partial rejects and incomplete 1.78-meter tanks from the Redstone and 2.67-meter tanks from the Jupiter missiles. Since the engines were going to be clustered, why not the tanks? 'The dire need made us more inventive,' [ABMA planner Willy] Mrazek pointed out, 'and we bundled the containers to be loaded with propellants.' So the vaunted big booster emerged from the drawing boards as a weird compromise of eight separate 1.78-meter Redstone tanks surrounding a 2.67-meter Jupiter tank. It did not look exactly like a smooth, streamlined futuristic vehicle for the exploration of space, nor was it intended to be. Designed solely to see if a blockbuster of a rocket could run its eight engines in concert, ABMA was satisfied with its awkward-looking compromise."